El final de Motley Crue???

Perry go round escribió:

Gallardo escribió:Vamos a ver... Es posible que se aproveche la película para criminalizar a Motley Crue, pero entiendo que por asuntos estrictamente musicales.

Conste que a raíz de vuestros comentarios empiezo a pensar que estamos en 1991.
Hasta hace 2 meses, la cosificación femenina era la moda imperante en todos los aspectos del show bussiness. Teníamos al reaggeton, a los rapperos y al techno chungo tratando en sus letras y videoclips a las mujeres como mierda pura. Teníamos a las pop-stars triunfando únicamente en base a su sexualidad y nada más (desde Katie Perry hasta la negra recauchutada esta con nombre raro, pasando por otras celebrities no-musicales como las Kardashians etc..). En todos los medios, la cosificación era la norma, el consenso, y el único camino hacia el estrellato.
Y ahora de golpe, este movimiento social anti-acoso, aparece como si un "Smells like Teen Spirit" se tratase, intentando acabar con estos 80s V2.0 que llevábamos viviendo en esta década de los 10s y recuperar el espíritu igualitario de los 90s para los 20s.

Lo que pasa es que en las versiones 1.0 de estas dos caras de la moneda había buena música en las dos, y en los 80s V2.0 sólo había mierda infecta. A ver si este revival del espíritu grunge a nivel social consigue sacar también algo de buena música.

keith_caputo escribió:

El facha catalán escribió:

keith_caputo escribió:Parece q el hijo de Tommy Lee, Brandon (de 21 años ya) ha pegado a su padre

Tensions are flying high between Tommy Lee and his son Brandon.

According to TMZ, a physical altercation allegedly broke out between Tommy and his 21-year-old son last night. No arrests were made, however Tommy was transported to a nearby hospital after his son allegedly gave him a fat lip.

The Los Angeles County Fire Department confirms to E! News that they did in fact respond to Tommy's Calabasas home at roughly 10:50 p.m. last evening for an assault call.

Tommy posted a photo of his bleeding face today on social media, writing, "My heart is broken. You can give your kids everything they could ever want in their entire lives and they can still turn against you. Good job Brandon! Great son!" The post has since



Brandon, who is the son of Tommy and Pamela Anderson, tells TMZ that his dad was drunk and that he punched him in self-defense.

But in a tweet posted by Tommy in response to the allegations, the musician gives new details on his side of the story, writing, "Hey @TMZ maybe get your facts straight before you go reporting bulls--t. My fiancé and I were in bed when my son busted into the room and assaulted me. I asked him to leave the house and he knocked me unconscious. He ran away from the police. THAT'S the truth."



The incident comes less than 24 hours after Tommy took to social media last night over an interview his ex-wife, Pamela, recently did with Piers Morgan. In the interview, Pamela stated that Tommy has been abusive during their relationship.

"Think she'd find something new to discuss instead of rehashing old s--t," he wrote.

E! News has reached out to Tommy's rep for comment.

Está bastante estropeado ¿no? Ha envejecido de golpe el hombre.

Hombre.... tiene 55 años. Comparalo con el tipico señor de 55 años q nos encontramos en la calle.....

Sugerio escribió:Yo ya lo siento, pero es pensar en Tommy Lee y visualizar a un tipo en pelotas, borracho como una cuba, tocando con el cimbrel la bocina de una lancha motora.

Han pasado veinte años y aún no lo he superado...

Ni batería voladora ni leches.

Moc mooooooc

Itlotg escribió:

keith_caputo escribió:Parece q el hijo de Tommy Lee, Brandon (de 21 años ya) ha pegado a su padre

Tensions are flying high between Tommy Lee and his son Brandon.

According to TMZ, a physical altercation allegedly broke out between Tommy and his 21-year-old son last night. No arrests were made, however Tommy was transported to a nearby hospital after his son allegedly gave him a fat lip.

The Los Angeles County Fire Department confirms to E! News that they did in fact respond to Tommy's Calabasas home at roughly 10:50 p.m. last evening for an assault call.

Tommy posted a photo of his bleeding face today on social media, writing, "My heart is broken. You can give your kids everything they could ever want in their entire lives and they can still turn against you. Good job Brandon! Great son!" The post has since



Brandon, who is the son of Tommy and Pamela Anderson, tells TMZ that his dad was drunk and that he punched him in self-defense.

But in a tweet posted by Tommy in response to the allegations, the musician gives new details on his side of the story, writing, "Hey @TMZ maybe get your facts straight before you go reporting bulls--t. My fiancé and I were in bed when my son busted into the room and assaulted me. I asked him to leave the house and he knocked me unconscious. He ran away from the police. THAT'S the truth."



The incident comes less than 24 hours after Tommy took to social media last night over an interview his ex-wife, Pamela, recently did with Piers Morgan. In the interview, Pamela stated that Tommy has been abusive during their relationship.

"Think she'd find something new to discuss instead of rehashing old s--t," he wrote.

E! News has reached out to Tommy's rep for comment.

Es que acaba de escuchar la canción que le dedicó y claro, el muchacho se ha ofendido

Harvey Dent escribió:BRU-TA-LI-SI-MO

Puto Tommy Lee!!!

On fire, vale no suenan a "Motley Crue", pero vaya sobrada. Una puta apisonadora.

modes garcia escribió:era un bateria cojonudo, potentísimo y muy espectacular, con esos brazos tan largos, le insuflaba un empuje brutal a la banda. Es una pena que tras la disolución de MOTLEY CRUE no haya entrado en ninguna otra formación, porque creo que aportaría mucho, tiene pegada y experiencia.

borope escribió:

modes garcia escribió:era un bateria cojonudo, potentísimo y muy espectacular, con esos brazos tan largos, le insuflaba un empuje brutal a la banda. Es una pena que tras la disolución de MOTLEY CRUE no haya entrado en ninguna otra formación, porque creo que aportaría mucho, tiene pegada y experiencia.

Si está en otra "banda". Hace sesiones esporádicasa de DJ por garitos aqui en USA, con su compi DJ Aero. Por aqui (Denver) que yo sepa, ha pasado 2-30 veces recientemente. Por ejemplo, hace 4 meses : https://www.betanightclub.com/event/tommy-lee-dj-aero-2/

Tommy PASA de hacer rock para barrigones cincuentones que sólo quieren oir Wild Side, y constituyen el 90% del público de Motley Crue en USA. ( Y si no, ved el DVD de The End). No hay ni un 15% del aforo que tenga menos de 30 años)

borope escribió:

modes garcia escribió:era un bateria cojonudo, potentísimo y muy espectacular, con esos brazos tan largos, le insuflaba un empuje brutal a la banda. Es una pena que tras la disolución de MOTLEY CRUE no haya entrado en ninguna otra formación, porque creo que aportaría mucho, tiene pegada y experiencia.

Si está en otra "banda". Hace sesiones esporádicas de DJ por garitos aqui en USA, con su compi DJ Aero. Por aqui (Denver) que yo sepa, ha pasado 2-3 veces recientemente. Por ejemplo, hace 4 meses : https://www.betanightclub.com/event/tommy-lee-dj-aero-2/

Tommy PASA de hacer rock para barrigones cincuentones que sólo quieren oir Wild Side, y constituyen el 90% del público de Motley Crue en USA. ( Y si no, ved el DVD de The End). No hay ni un 15% del aforo que tenga menos de 30 años)

Perry go round escribió:

borope escribió:

modes garcia escribió:era un bateria cojonudo, potentísimo y muy espectacular, con esos brazos tan largos, le insuflaba un empuje brutal a la banda. Es una pena que tras la disolución de MOTLEY CRUE no haya entrado en ninguna otra formación, porque creo que aportaría mucho, tiene pegada y experiencia.

Si está en otra "banda". Hace sesiones esporádicas de DJ por garitos aqui en USA, con su compi DJ Aero. Por aqui (Denver) que yo sepa, ha pasado 2-3 veces recientemente. Por ejemplo, hace 4 meses : https://www.betanightclub.com/event/tommy-lee-dj-aero-2/

Tommy PASA de hacer rock para barrigones cincuentones que sólo quieren oir Wild Side, y constituyen el 90% del público de Motley Crue en USA. ( Y si no, ved el DVD de The End). No hay ni un 15% del aforo que tenga menos de 30 años)

Tommy pasa de tocar rock para barrigones cincuentones Americanos. En lugar de eso prefiere no tocar para nadie. Y hey, está en su derecho de no tocar. Pero está más desfasado y fuera de lugar él que cualquiera de esos señores que tienen la misma edad que él y que por lo menos tienen claro quienes son. Tommy Lee a sus cincuenta y cinco años aún se está buscando en el fondo de una botella. Es bastante triste.

Sugerio escribió:Yo ya lo siento, pero es pensar en Tommy Lee y visualizar a un tipo en pelotas, borracho como una cuba, tocando con el cimbrel la bocina de una lancha motora.

Han pasado veinte años y aún no lo he superado...

Ni batería voladora ni leches.

Moc mooooooc

keith_caputo escribió:Sigue el culebron. Ahora es Pamela la q dice q Tommy es un alcohólico y q su hijo Brandon solo estaba intentado ayudar a su padre



Tommy Lee and his ex-wife Pamela Anderson have issued dueling statements about who is to blame for the physical altercation that took place between him and their 21-year-old son Brandon on Monday night.

In a lengthy statement titled "Alcoholism Is The Devil," Anderson said that Tommy's actions have been "desperate and humiliating" and called him "a disaster spinning out of control" who is "not acting like a father." Saying that the MÖTLEY CRÜE drummer has brought "a lifetime of disappointment" to her and their family, she claimed that she prays "Tommy gets the help he needs" for his drinking problem." She also added that her sons "have made every attempt to help [Tommy] in recent months," insisting that Brandon was "does not want to see his dad in jail" and "just wants him to get sober."

Anderson went on to say that Lee is "consistently the center of sadness, drama and confusion, jealous of his son's talent and beauty from the day they were born. He is sick. The definition of narcissist/sociopath."

She added: "I stand beside my son who acted out of self-defense and was scared for his life. Tommy feels humiliated — and is attempting to destroy his own son. This is the devil. This is the disease of alcoholism."

In Lee's own statement, he said that he loves his sons, adding that he has "given them everything" he possibly could." He also confirmed that "the thing that started all this was Pamela going on on a barrage of interviews talking about the past" — including her own domestic abuse at the hands of Tommy — "right as soon as I got engaged to my fiancée, who I have a beautiful relationship with. The fact that Pamela would ignore my pleas for her to stop pushed me over the edge. I messaged her several times asking her to stop taking these interviews, that [it] was hurting me and the boys, and she would ignore me."

The 55-year-old also denied that he has a serious drinking problem, saying: "Do I drink more than the average Joe? Yes. Have I ever hurt my sons or acted out of turn with them because of my drinking? No. No matter how much people wanna pin me as this deviant alcoholic abuser, that isn't me. I'm a happy, fun-loving guy."

Lee also implied that his extensive traveling during his days in MÖTLEY CRÜE contributed to the deterioration of his relationship with his sons. "Because I was on tour working, making money to pay for their private schools and their cars and their future, they spent time with their mother," he said. "She became the hero. And I've come to peace with that."

Tommy once again refuted Brandon's claim that the older Lee was the aggressor Monday night. "When I stood up, he pushed me into a wall," Tommy said. "I didn't want to hit my son. I never have and I never will."

Brandon is one of the two children Tommy had with Anderson, along with 20-year-old Dylan.

Tommy is currently engaged to Vine star Brittany Furlan, 31, who was with him at the time of the alleged assault and placed a 911 call immediately after the incident.

caracterización de los actores::

vitobratta escribió:

caracterización de los actores:

Sergio El Kiss escribió:Está claro. Vince, mick, nikki y tommy.

El facha catalán escribió:

Sergio El Kiss escribió:Está claro. Vince, mick, nikki y tommy.

Vince y Tommyh están claros

Pero Mick y Nikki no sabría distinguirlos

Porque el que supone que es Mick es guapo y joven

Y Mick nunca fue ni guapo ni joven, ni cuando tenía 15 años

VELVETGUNNER escribió:

El facha catalán escribió:

Sergio El Kiss escribió:Está claro. Vince, mick, nikki y tommy.

Vince y Tommyh están claros

Pero Mick y Nikki no sabría distinguirlos

Porque el que supone que es Mick es guapo y joven

Y Mick nunca fue ni guapo ni joven, ni cuando tenía 15 años

Bueno hombre, tampoco era para tanto
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El facha catalán escribió:

Sergio El Kiss escribió:Está claro. Vince, mick, nikki y tommy.

Vince y Tommyh están claros

Pero Mick y Nikki no sabría distinguirlos

Porque el que supone que es Mick es guapo y joven

Y Mick nunca fue ni guapo ni joven, ni cuando tenía 15 años

lacan escribió:vale, el rubio es Vince, los demás ni idea

starfuckers escribió:Donde me puedo bajar en pdf su biografía?

keith_caputo escribió:

starfuckers escribió:Donde me puedo bajar en pdf su biografía?

Bajarse la biografia en PDF??? No lo se la verdad, pero q poco me atrae esa idea. Yo es q soy de comprar libros, tocarlos, tenerlos conmigo y disfrutar de ellos cuando los veo en la estanteria de mi casa

Perry go round escribió:Además, el que tradujo el libro al castellano es forero y seguro que agradece que apoyes su iniciativa comercial y le compres el libro.

keith_caputo escribió:

Perry go round escribió:Además, el que tradujo el libro al castellano es forero y seguro que agradece que apoyes su iniciativa comercial y le compres el libro.

Forero??? Quien es??

keith_caputo escribió:

keith_caputo escribió:Sigue el culebron. Ahora es Pamela la q dice q Tommy es un alcohólico y q su hijo Brandon solo estaba intentado ayudar a su padre



Tommy Lee and his ex-wife Pamela Anderson have issued dueling statements about who is to blame for the physical altercation that took place between him and their 21-year-old son Brandon on Monday night.

In a lengthy statement titled "Alcoholism Is The Devil," Anderson said that Tommy's actions have been "desperate and humiliating" and called him "a disaster spinning out of control" who is "not acting like a father." Saying that the MÖTLEY CRÜE drummer has brought "a lifetime of disappointment" to her and their family, she claimed that she prays "Tommy gets the help he needs" for his drinking problem." She also added that her sons "have made every attempt to help [Tommy] in recent months," insisting that Brandon was "does not want to see his dad in jail" and "just wants him to get sober."

Anderson went on to say that Lee is "consistently the center of sadness, drama and confusion, jealous of his son's talent and beauty from the day they were born. He is sick. The definition of narcissist/sociopath."

She added: "I stand beside my son who acted out of self-defense and was scared for his life. Tommy feels humiliated — and is attempting to destroy his own son. This is the devil. This is the disease of alcoholism."

In Lee's own statement, he said that he loves his sons, adding that he has "given them everything" he possibly could." He also confirmed that "the thing that started all this was Pamela going on on a barrage of interviews talking about the past" — including her own domestic abuse at the hands of Tommy — "right as soon as I got engaged to my fiancée, who I have a beautiful relationship with. The fact that Pamela would ignore my pleas for her to stop pushed me over the edge. I messaged her several times asking her to stop taking these interviews, that [it] was hurting me and the boys, and she would ignore me."

The 55-year-old also denied that he has a serious drinking problem, saying: "Do I drink more than the average Joe? Yes. Have I ever hurt my sons or acted out of turn with them because of my drinking? No. No matter how much people wanna pin me as this deviant alcoholic abuser, that isn't me. I'm a happy, fun-loving guy."

Lee also implied that his extensive traveling during his days in MÖTLEY CRÜE contributed to the deterioration of his relationship with his sons. "Because I was on tour working, making money to pay for their private schools and their cars and their future, they spent time with their mother," he said. "She became the hero. And I've come to peace with that."

Tommy once again refuted Brandon's claim that the older Lee was the aggressor Monday night. "When I stood up, he pushed me into a wall," Tommy said. "I didn't want to hit my son. I never have and I never will."

Brandon is one of the two children Tommy had with Anderson, along with 20-year-old Dylan.

Tommy is currently engaged to Vine star Brittany Furlan, 31, who was with him at the time of the alleged assault and placed a 911 call immediately after the incident.

Sigue el culebron. Tommy va a demandar a su hijo y parece q Brandon, su hijo grabo con l movil la agresion a su padre



TMZ reports that former Motley Crue drummer Tommy Lee is going forward with his criminal complaint against his son, Brandon, because he believes when you coddle a child who commits wrong, you ruin him.

Sources close to Tommy tell TMZ, Tommy wants the cops to keep investigating the battery complaint he filed against his 21-year-old son, and if he ends up getting prosecuted … so be it.



Tommy thinks his ex-wife and Brandon’s mom, Pamela Anderson, is behind Brandon’s fury … when he punched Tommy so hard last Monday he was knocked out cold for a full 2 minutes. He’s especially upset with the comment Pam made to TMZ … “He punched him in the nose for all of us who he has hurt.”

Tommy believes Pam egged Brandon on after Tommy criticized Pam on social media for going on a TV show and recounting the domestic abuse in their marriage. He thinks Pam put Brandon in such a fury, he went into Tommy’s bedroom ready to fight. Brandon says he struck in self-defense.

And TMZ’s sources say … Brandon videotaped Tommy as he lay unconscious and laughed. Tommy believes Brandon sent the video to Pam as proof of performance. We’re told Pam denies that.

As one Tommy source put it, the famous drummer believes, “You encourage what you tolerate, and he’s not going to tolerate what Brandon did and that’s why he wants the criminal case to keep moving along … at least for now.”

ion escribió:El chaval debe ser un consentido de cuidado... Y Tommy no engaña a nadie, le gusta irse de fiesta, beber etc. Pero todo el mundo que lo conoce dice que es un tipo cojonudo, un niño grande.

keith_caputo escribió:

ion escribió:El chaval debe ser un consentido de cuidado... Y Tommy no engaña a nadie, le gusta irse de fiesta, beber etc. Pero todo el mundo que lo conoce dice que es un tipo cojonudo, un niño grande.

x cierto, 10.000 $ fue la factura q le pasaron a Tommy por ir al medico?. Ya se q en USA la sanidad es privada pero o Tommy tiene muy mal seguro medico o ir al medico en USA es mas caro de lo q yo pensaba

Por otro lado la rehabilitacion de su hijo, x drogas imagino, me parece cara de cojones