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Mensaje por freakedu el Jue 7 Mayo 2020 - 7:35

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/06/bay-pigs-style-fiasco-venezuela/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=wp_main

A Bay of Pigs-style fiasco in Venezuela

Trump administration officials this week — including President Trump on Tuesday — rejected any link to an apparent failed military operation over the weekend in Venezuela that involved a group of armed defectors and at least two American mercenaries who are now in Venezuelan detention.

President Nicolás Maduro said Monday that his government had stopped a “terrorist” assault on the country, killing eight and capturing more than a dozen of the plotters over two days. Maduro said they sought to incite a rebellion and possibly kill him. Thousands of Venezuelan reservists were deployed to the country’s coasts in a show of force.

For years, the embattled demagogue has warned of foreign plots against his rule, waving at the specter of treacherous coups and imperialist invasions. Such alarmism often served as a smokescreen for his government’s failures and the economic collapse that has taken place under his watch. But this time — as footage circulated by Venezuelan authorities on social media appeared to show a number of apprehended insurrectionists, including two former U.S. Special Operations soldiers — Maduro may have a point.

A key figure behind the plot is Jordan Goudreau, a former U.S. Green Beret who runs Silvercorp USA, a Florida-based private security firm. From Florida, Goudreau announced the incursion alongside a former Venezuelan national guard officer in a video on Sunday and told reporters that the ongoing operation had the support and encouragement of the Venezuelan opposition, including opposition leader Juan Guaidó. (Guaidó’s office has denied any contact with Goudreau or signing any agreement with him, but various people familiar with the situation allege that there were direct contacts between Goudreau and other members of the opposition last year.)

“The main mission was to liberate Venezuela, to capture Maduro, but the mission in Caracas failed,” Goudreau told Bloomberg News. “The secondary mission is to set up insurgency camps against Maduro. They are already in camps, they are recruiting and we are going to start attacking tactical targets.”

That may be a fantasy. In an interview with my colleagues on Monday, Goudreau said the two captured Americans — identified as Airan Berry and Luke Denman — had been in a boat off Venezuela’s Caribbean coast late Sunday, hoping for extraction, before they were seized by Maduro’s forces. Now, he wants U.S. officials to “engage and try to get these guys back,” Goudreau told The Washington Post. “They are Americans. They are ex-Green Berets. Come on.”

“They were playing Rambo,” said Maduro, on whom the United States has placed a $15 million bounty. “They were playing hero.”

Reports of Goudreau’s operation paint a bizarre picture. Initial planning meetings a year ago in Colombia involved what one person described to the Associated Press as a “Star Wars summit of anti-Maduro goofballs,” replete with “military deserters accused of drug trafficking, shady financiers” and former regime officials. The AP identified Goudreau’s principal contact and the main ringleader as Clíver Alcalá, a retired Venezuelan major general who is in detention in the United States on narcotics charges.

Observers weren’t impressed by the handful of clandestine training camps that sprang up in Colombia. “You’re not going to take out Maduro with 300 hungry, untrained men,” Ephraim Mattos, a former U.S. Navy SEAL who trained some of the would-be combatants in first aid, told the AP.

The number of fighters involved in the botched invasion appears to be considerably less than that, and a far less real threat to Maduro’s hold on power than a quashed uprising a year ago that did have Guaidó’s direct involvement.

The current episode smacks of “Keystone Cops” meets “Bay of Pigs,” Brett McGurk, a former Trump and Obama administration diplomat, suggested on Twitter. The latter incident is the failed invasion of Cuba in 1961 by a force of Cuban exiles secretly backed by the United States. Its memory was conspicuously harnessed by Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton, who delivered an address to the Bay of Pigs Veterans Association in Florida last year hailing the “twilight hour of socialism” in the hemisphere.

“There’s a kind of tragedy meets farce element to this, in part because so many of the people Trump has surrounded himself with, or at least outsourced his policy to … are Cold Warriors repeating these well-worn scripts,” New York University academic Alejandro Velasco told the American Conservative.

The Bay of Pigs is also an enduring, loaded metaphor for American meddling and overreach abroad. For that reason, analysts doubt the Trump administration played any serious role in encouraging this weekend’s quixotic raid. “There’s not one person at the State Department or the CIA who says let’s repeat the Bay of Pigs,” Eric Farnsworth, vice president of the Council of the Americas and a former senior U.S. diplomat, told Today’s WorldView.

The incident does expose some of the problems that ail Venezuela’s opposition: Although Guaidó is now a well-known figurehead, recognized by the United States and dozens of other countries as Venezuela’s legitimate leader, he presides over a decentralized mess of factions inside and outside the country. The opposition finds it both “tough to maintain message discipline,” Farnsworth said, and is “awfully easy for the regime to infiltrate.” In this case, regime officials boasted of knowing about the plot well in advance.

For Maduro, the incident is a welcome distraction. Tanking oil prices and the coronavirus pandemic have put him under even greater pressure, with aid organizations and opposition officials warning of the risk of the country’s already enfeebled health system collapsing under new strains.

It’s a “convenient narrative,” Farnsworth said. “What better way to rally a country that’s flat on its back than to expose an invasion from the empire?”


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Mensaje por red ryder el Jue 7 Mayo 2020 - 8:21

Para hablar de la gastronomía ,exquisita, y de los paisajes, preciosos. 

De esas cosas también abundan por las tierras criollas.
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Mensaje por Eric Sachs el Jue 7 Mayo 2020 - 8:29

@freakedu escribió:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/06/bay-pigs-style-fiasco-venezuela/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=wp_main

A Bay of Pigs-style fiasco in Venezuela

Trump administration officials this week — including President Trump on Tuesday — rejected any link to an apparent failed military operation over the weekend in Venezuela that involved a group of armed defectors and at least two American mercenaries who are now in Venezuelan detention.

President Nicolás Maduro said Monday that his government had stopped a “terrorist” assault on the country, killing eight and capturing more than a dozen of the plotters over two days. Maduro said they sought to incite a rebellion and possibly kill him. Thousands of Venezuelan reservists were deployed to the country’s coasts in a show of force.

For years, the embattled demagogue has warned of foreign plots against his rule, waving at the specter of treacherous coups and imperialist invasions. Such alarmism often served as a smokescreen for his government’s failures and the economic collapse that has taken place under his watch. But this time — as footage circulated by Venezuelan authorities on social media appeared to show a number of apprehended insurrectionists, including two former U.S. Special Operations soldiers — Maduro may have a point.

A key figure behind the plot is Jordan Goudreau, a former U.S. Green Beret who runs Silvercorp USA, a Florida-based private security firm. From Florida, Goudreau announced the incursion alongside a former Venezuelan national guard officer in a video on Sunday and told reporters that the ongoing operation had the support and encouragement of the Venezuelan opposition, including opposition leader Juan Guaidó. (Guaidó’s office has denied any contact with Goudreau or signing any agreement with him, but various people familiar with the situation allege that there were direct contacts between Goudreau and other members of the opposition last year.)

“The main mission was to liberate Venezuela, to capture Maduro, but the mission in Caracas failed,” Goudreau told Bloomberg News. “The secondary mission is to set up insurgency camps against Maduro. They are already in camps, they are recruiting and we are going to start attacking tactical targets.”

That may be a fantasy. In an interview with my colleagues on Monday, Goudreau said the two captured Americans — identified as Airan Berry and Luke Denman — had been in a boat off Venezuela’s Caribbean coast late Sunday, hoping for extraction, before they were seized by Maduro’s forces. Now, he wants U.S. officials to “engage and try to get these guys back,” Goudreau told The Washington Post. “They are Americans. They are ex-Green Berets. Come on.”

“They were playing Rambo,” said Maduro, on whom the United States has placed a $15 million bounty. “They were playing hero.”

Reports of Goudreau’s operation paint a bizarre picture. Initial planning meetings a year ago in Colombia involved what one person described to the Associated Press as a “Star Wars summit of anti-Maduro goofballs,” replete with “military deserters accused of drug trafficking, shady financiers” and former regime officials. The AP identified Goudreau’s principal contact and the main ringleader as Clíver Alcalá, a retired Venezuelan major general who is in detention in the United States on narcotics charges.

Observers weren’t impressed by the handful of clandestine training camps that sprang up in Colombia. “You’re not going to take out Maduro with 300 hungry, untrained men,” Ephraim Mattos, a former U.S. Navy SEAL who trained some of the would-be combatants in first aid, told the AP.

The number of fighters involved in the botched invasion appears to be considerably less than that, and a far less real threat to Maduro’s hold on power than a quashed uprising a year ago that did have Guaidó’s direct involvement.

The current episode smacks of “Keystone Cops” meets “Bay of Pigs,” Brett McGurk, a former Trump and Obama administration diplomat, suggested on Twitter. The latter incident is the failed invasion of Cuba in 1961 by a force of Cuban exiles secretly backed by the United States. Its memory was conspicuously harnessed by Trump’s former national security adviser John Bolton, who delivered an address to the Bay of Pigs Veterans Association in Florida last year hailing the “twilight hour of socialism” in the hemisphere.

“There’s a kind of tragedy meets farce element to this, in part because so many of the people Trump has surrounded himself with, or at least outsourced his policy to … are Cold Warriors repeating these well-worn scripts,” New York University academic Alejandro Velasco told the American Conservative.

The Bay of Pigs is also an enduring, loaded metaphor for American meddling and overreach abroad. For that reason, analysts doubt the Trump administration played any serious role in encouraging this weekend’s quixotic raid. “There’s not one person at the State Department or the CIA who says let’s repeat the Bay of Pigs,” Eric Farnsworth, vice president of the Council of the Americas and a former senior U.S. diplomat, told Today’s WorldView.

The incident does expose some of the problems that ail Venezuela’s opposition: Although Guaidó is now a well-known figurehead, recognized by the United States and dozens of other countries as Venezuela’s legitimate leader, he presides over a decentralized mess of factions inside and outside the country. The opposition finds it both “tough to maintain message discipline,” Farnsworth said, and is “awfully easy for the regime to infiltrate.” In this case, regime officials boasted of knowing about the plot well in advance.

For Maduro, the incident is a welcome distraction. Tanking oil prices and the coronavirus pandemic have put him under even greater pressure, with aid organizations and opposition officials warning of the risk of the country’s already enfeebled health system collapsing under new strains.

It’s a “convenient narrative,” Farnsworth said. “What better way to rally a country that’s flat on its back than to expose an invasion from the empire?”


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claro que si guapi.

vas a invadir un pais.

con uan fuerza de 20 fulanos.


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Mensaje por freakedu el Jue 7 Mayo 2020 - 19:08

Así que no era un invent de Maduro:


Un asesor de Guaidó admite que pagó por un ataque «exploratorio» para capturar a miembros del régimen

https://www.abc.es/internacional/abci-asesor-guaido-admite-pago-ataque-exploratorio-para-capturar-miembros-regimen-202005070826_noticia.html#vca=rrss&vmc=abc-es&vso=tw&vli=cm-general&_tcode=NWprdmcx



From a Miami condo to the Venezuelan coast, how a plan to ‘capture’ Maduro went rogue

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/from-a-miami-condo-to-the-venezuelan-coast-how-a-plan-to-capture-maduro-went-rogue/2020/05/06/046222bc-8e4a-11ea-9322-a29e75effc93_story.html

Inside a glittering Miami high-rise, representatives of the Venezuelan opposition sat in a room adorned with samurai swords and listened to a pitch. They had been appointed by opposition leader Juan Guaidó to explore all options in their U.S.-backed quest to oust Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro. On that afternoon on the shores of Biscayne Bay last September, a former U.S. Army Green Beret presented them with an answer.

Operation Resolution.

Jordan Goudreau, a 43-year-old Special Forces veteran who ran a strategic-security firm on the Florida Space Coast, laid out a plan that could double as a screenplay for an episode of “Jack Ryan.” Goudreau claimed to have 800 men ready to penetrate Venezuela and “extract” Maduro and his henchmen, according to J.J. Rendón, the Venezuelan political strategist tapped by Guaidó to help lead the secretive committee.

Guaidó “was saying all options were on the table, and under the table,” Rendón told The Washington Post. “We were fulfilling that purpose.”

By October, the plan had advanced to the point of a signed agreement, contingent on funding and other conditions. Rendón calls it a trial balloon, a test of what Goudreau could do that was never officially greenlighted. But the language of the agreement left no ambiguity on the objective: “An operation to capture/detain/remove Nicolás Maduro . . . remove the current Regime and install the recognized Venezuelan President Juan Guaidó.”

But soon after the signing, Rendón said, Goudreau began acting erratically. He failed to produce evidence of the financial backing he claimed to have lined up to fund the operation, Rendón said, and demanded immediate payment of a $1.5 million retainer. There was no evidence of 800 men. Rendón transferred him $50,000 for “expenses” to buy more time, but the relationship between the two men quickly went south.

“Washington is fully aware of your direct participation in the project and I don’t want them to lose faith,” Goudreau warned in an Oct. 10 text message to Rendón.

There was an explosive argument in Rendón’s Miami condominium in early November, Rendón said. He and other opposition officials considered the operation dead.

[General services agreement attachments: ‘An operation to capture/detain/remove Nicolás Maduro’]

Until Sunday morning.

First, Venezuelan officials said they had thwarted a predawn “invasion” aimed at killing Maduro. Then Goudreau appeared in a video with a former Venezuelan military officer in battle fatigues. The men proclaimed the start of an operation to “liberate” Venezuela, and Goudreau said participants had entered the country. But by then the mission — apparently infiltrated by Maduro’s agents — had already sustained a devastating blow, with eight men killed and two captured. On Monday, 11 others were detained, two of them Goudreau’s fellow former Green Berets.

This report, based on interviews with more than 20 people familiar with the events, provides previously undisclosed details on the opposition’s discussions of what participants secretly dubbed “Plan C”: an armed incursion to locate and capture Maduro.

President Trump and other U.S. officials have denied knowledge of the ill-fated operation. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Wednesday that “there was no United States government direct involvement.”

Goudreau says he unsuccessfully sought U.S. backing through an aide in the office of Vice President Pence. He declined to name the aide. A spokeswoman for Pence said Wednesday that there was “zero contact” between anyone in the vice president’s office and Goudreau.

“There was no coordination, nothing to do with this,” spokeswoman Katie Miller said.

Rendón said his committee kept details of its work to a small group and never shared them with U.S. officials, because the plan was only being “studied.”

Goudreau insists that some form of the operation is “ongoing” and that Venezuela’s mainstream opposition betrayed him by reneging on their deal. He said he opted to move forward with what he says he was hired to do. He said it had nothing to do with money; he was doing “the right thing.”

U.S. denies involvement in alleged Venezuela invasion attempt as details remain murky

“This isn’t a wartime action; this is a policing action,” Goudreau said. “The world recognizes one guy [Guaidó] as president, so they hired me to arrest the other person who has usurped power, Nicolás Maduro.”

Goudreau, a Canadian-born American citizen, first walked through the looking glass of the anti-Maduro world in February 2019, when he worked security at a Venezuelan aid concert on the Colombian border organized by British billionaire Richard Branson.

He served 15 years in the Army as an infantry mortar man and later as a Special Forces medical sergeant. He deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan twice each between 2006 and 2014, Army officials said.

“He had an intensity to him that was a little bit different,” said Joe Kent, a retired Green Beret who attended a leader’s course with him in 2007. “He seemed like he was training for something.”

In 2012, the Defense Department launched a criminal investigation into Goudreau for alleged theft and fraud in connection with $62,000 in housing allowances he collected for his wife, court records show. Goudreau said the matter was resolved without any charges.

He founded Silvercorp USA in 2018. The firm advertises a variety of services, including assisting victims of kidnapping and extortion. According to a biography on the company’s website, Goudreau planned and led “international security teams for the President of the United States as well as the Secretary of Defense.”

By last summer, Venezuela’s faltering opposition was looking for options. Guaidó had tried to lead a military uprising against Maduro on April 30, 2019, but the carefully constructed plot utterly collapsed as conspirators close to the autocrat either backed out or had been double agents the whole time. That left Guaidó, the National Assembly president who is recognized by the United States and more than 50 other nations as Venezuela’s rightful leader, fighting to regain momentum for his opposition movement.

One little-known element of that fight was the creation last August of a new “Strategic Committee.” Its full membership remains secret, but its most public face is Juan José Rendón.

The 56-year-old political strategist was perfectly suited to the task. Chased out of Venezuela by the ruling socialists in 2013 and threatened with torture should he return, he was no friend of Maduro. From his base in the intrigue-heavy world of Venezuelan exiles in Miami, he became an internationally sought political consultant.

Venezuela’s Maduro says two Americans captured in failed invasion attempt

His committee’s mission was to investigate scenarios for achieving regime change. Members researched pedestrian options, such as ratcheting up international pressure against the government.

But they also studied the possibility of effectively kidnapping Maduro and his close associates.

The effort involved speaking to more than a dozen attorneys about the legalities of such a mission, Rendón said. They looked at the “universal enemy” argument — once used to prosecute pirates — that formed the basis of some Nazi renditions after World War II. They compiled a dossier on the failed Bay of Pigs attempt to liberate Cuba from the government of Fidel Castro.

Questions of legality dogged the prospects of such an operation in Venezuela. But committee members ultimately decided that articles of the Venezuelan constitution, coupled with the U.N. Convention against Transnational Organized Crime, might offer the legal cover they needed to potentially move forward.

By the time Goudreau arrived in Rendón’s living room on Sept. 7, Rendón said, the committee had already met with a handful of potential partners. But they wanted as much as $500 million for the job.

Goudreau, in contrast, pitched a self-financed plan with a retainer upfront and a more modest payout — $212.9 million — after the mission was accomplished. The money was to come from future exports of Venezuelan oil under a Guaidó government.

But they had an ace in the hole that might not cost Venezuelan taxpayers a dime.

The opposition had identified private warehouses in Venezuela filled with the allegedly ill-gotten gains of Maduro’s inner circle. Photographs shared via text message between Rendón and Goudreau and provided to The Post show massive bales of carefully wrapped U.S. dollars stacked on a wooden floor. Goudreau would have been entitled to 14 percent of the recovered funds.

The plan involved far more than the primary targets of seizing and extracting Maduro and his men. A general services agreement indicated that Silvercorp would advise ex-Venezuelan soldiers in exile for the operation. Goudreau had 45 days for force preparation, equipment procurement and mission readiness. Teams would enter Venezuela clandestinely and form cells that would move deeper into the nation to secure key oil facilities and strategic buildings. They would engage government security forces, as well as the motorcycle-
riding, pro-Maduro gangs known as colectivos and Colombian guerrilla groups operating on Venezuelan soil.

An agreement was signed in Washington on Oct. 16. Goudreau secretly recorded a brief video call that day with Guaidó, which he provided to The Post.

“We are doing the right thing for our country,” Guaidó is heard to say, and later: “I’m about to sign.”

Guaidó declined to be interviewed for this article. In a statement, he denied any existing contract with Goudreau, and said his “interim government” has no connection to the apparently ongoing operation against Maduro.

For a time, Rendón and others thought Goudreau might produce results. But they grew wary after he began demanding payment of the $1.5 million retainer. Rendón describes the payment as a mere gesture, not to be collected upfront, to help Goudreau raise $50 million in private funds.

Goudreau counters that the agreement — supplied in part to The Post by Goudreau, with a more complete version provided by Rendón — bound the opposition to his services and initial fee. A seven-page document provided by Goudreau carries Guaido’s signature, along with those of Rendón and fellow opposition official Sergio Vergara.

“Look, J.J. Rendón pushed for the $50 million for the operation, an operation to flip the country,” Goudreau said. “Nobody here is a Boy Scout. They thought they were going to seize power.”

Inside the secret plot to turn senior Venezuelan officials against Maduro

Rendón, however, insists that the document Goudreau produced was never signed by Guaidó, and provided previous and subsequent agreements to The Post that did not bear Guaido’s name. Rendón said Guaidó knew only the rough outlines of an “exploratory plan” but grew suspicious of Goudreau based on the reports of the committee.

“We were all having red flags, and the president was not comfortable with this,” he said.

Some have feared that Maduro will use Goudreau’s operation to take an action he has so far resisted: arresting Guaidó. On Wednesday, he called for an investigation into Guaido’s alleged involvement.

Days before the incursion into Venezuela, Goudreau’s attorneys delivered a letter to Rendón demanding payment of $1.45 million. Opposition officials began to fear Goudreau might take last year’s discussions public.

When Rendón woke up Sunday to news of the operation, he said, he was stunned.

“I thought, are these guys crazy?” he said. “They were blackmailing us [for the money]. I thought, wow, are you really going to take it this deep?”

After providing security at the 2019 border concert, Goudreau came into contact with Clíver Alcalá. The former Venezuelan major general had been close to the late socialist leader Hugo Chávez but defected under his successor, Maduro. Alcalá was living in Colombia, organizing former Venezuelan soldiers in a plan to oust Maduro.

The meeting took place in a hotel in Bogotá. There, several people familiar with the events say, Goudreau learned the details of Alcalá’s plan. At one point, people familiar with the events say, the plan was to rush to seize the Venezuelan oil capital of Maracaibo, then push east toward Caracas.

Some senior opposition officials had dismissed the plan as a “fantasy.” When Goudreau got involved, the plan became an operation to extract Maduro, his wife and other government officials, including close Maduro ally Diosdado Cabello.

Oil-rich Venezuela is running out of gas, and Maduro is running out of options

But that plan appeared to be compromised.

In March, U.S. authorities indicted Maduro and other current and former senior Venezuelan figures on narcoterrorism charges. Defendants included Alcalá, who was brought to the United States. Then Maduro’s government went public with charges it had been lobbing for months — that a plot against him was brewing on Colombian soil.

Maduro has claimed his agents knew every detail of Sunday’s incursion and were lying in wait.

“We knew everything,” he said. “What they ate, what they didn’t eat. What they drank. Who financed them.”

Venezuelan government says it stopped ‘invasion’ launched from Colombia

Goudreau briefly came into contact last year with former longtime Trump bodyguard Keith Schiller, now a security consultant. The two men attended a meeting in Florida last spring with businessmen at which Goudreau met influential figures in the Venezuelan opposition, according to a person close to Schiller. That meeting was unrelated to the opposition’s strategic committee. Schiller, determining there were no real business prospects, subsequently cut off contact with both the opposition and Goudreau.

U.S. officials were aware, and concerned, about the hundreds of Venezuelan soldiers who had defected and were living precariously in Colombia. U.S. and Colombian officials shared concern that if they were destitute, they could be drawn into illicit activity. Discussions were held about how and whether to feed those men, or organize them to aid the Venezuelan refugee community.

But they viewed the idea that they could be organized into a fighting force as “completely insane,” one official said.

The Colombians “were against it and we were against it,” according to a U.S. official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters. “No one should be doing this kind of military organizing.”

Maduro said Wednesday that four additional “terrorists” had been arrested. He showed a video of the questioning of a man identified as Luke Denman, one of two former Green Berets who had served with Goudreau and was now captured.

Denman, who appeared disheveled but calm and unharmed, spoke in response to questions from an unseen interrogator. He confirmed that the goal of the mission had been to capture Maduro, and that he had expected $50,000 to $100,000 for training in Colombia.

He said training and organization of the operation had taken place near the Colombian town of Riohacha, near the Venezuelan border. Only two Americans were in the training camp, he said, including himself.

Weapons and uniforms, he said, had been provided by “Jordan, through Silvercorp.”

They were picked up at airport and driven by a woman called “Alex.” He described a “man in a wheelchair” who showed up at one of two safe houses in Riohacha, who “appeared to have some influence.” He “arrived in a nice SUV, had on a nice shirt, he had gold jewelry on.”

“I was helping Venezuelans take back control of their country,” Denman said.

Faiola reported from Miami, DeYoung from Washington and Herrero from Caracas. Dalton Bennett, Shawn Boburg and Alex Horton in Washington contributed to this report.

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Mensaje por Jurek el Jue 7 Mayo 2020 - 19:58

Así que un mini-Bahía Cochinos ? ... cuesta creer.
Más munición para Maduro. Son unos genios.

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Mensaje por stonie el Vie 8 Mayo 2020 - 3:48

Molaría hacer un juego a nivel nacional. Cada vez que alguien diga Venezuela, ronda de chupitos.
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Mensaje por alflames el Vie 8 Mayo 2020 - 4:47

@Jurek escribió:Así que un mini-Bahía Cochinos ? ... cuesta creer.
Más munición para Maduro. Son unos genios.


no sé eh, lo de que el gobierno de usa no ha tenido nada que ver tiene bastante credibilidad
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Mensaje por uno cualquiera el Vie 8 Mayo 2020 - 8:52

@alflames escribió:
@Jurek escribió:Así que un mini-Bahía Cochinos ? ... cuesta creer.
Más munición para Maduro. Son unos genios.


no sé eh, lo de que el gobierno de usa no ha tenido nada que ver tiene bastante credibilidad

Yo veo clarisimo que la mano negra es la de este home

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Mensaje por David Z. el Vie 8 Mayo 2020 - 20:53

@alflames escribió:
@Jurek escribió:Así que un mini-Bahía Cochinos ? ... cuesta creer.
Más munición para Maduro. Son unos genios.


no sé eh, lo de que el gobierno de usa no ha tenido nada que ver tiene bastante credibilidad

Además de que hay que ser mal pensado para imaginar algo así del gobierno de Estados Unidos.

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Mensaje por David Z. el Vie 8 Mayo 2020 - 20:55

@stonie escribió:Molaría hacer un juego a nivel nacional. Cada vez que alguien diga Venezuela, ronda de chupitos.


Tú quieres que acabemos todos cirróticos.

Salud,
z
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Mensaje por Axlferrari el Sáb 30 Mayo 2020 - 7:58

La cáscara socialista está vacía: neocolonialismo e hidrocarburos en Argelia y Venezuela

http://alasbarricadas.org/noticias/node/43873
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Mensaje por salakov el Sáb 4 Jul 2020 - 16:02



Axl, esa es ministra de Economía de Venezuela lo mismo que tú.

¿Qué decía Debord de cotejar las fuentes y no dar cobertura a noticias falsas?
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Mensaje por salakov el Sáb 4 Jul 2020 - 16:03

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Mensaje por Axlferrari el Sáb 4 Jul 2020 - 16:56

@salakov escribió:


Axl, esa es ministra de Economía de Venezuela lo mismo que tú.

¿Qué decía Debord de cotejar las fuentes y no dar cobertura a noticias falsas?
Si no es ella será otr@ subnormal por el mismo estilo. Tanto da.
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Mensaje por mugu el Sáb 4 Jul 2020 - 17:01


Joder, qué marrón les han montado. Ahora van a tener que elegir entre el oro y Guaidó. Susto o muerte Laughing
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Mensaje por Dumbie el Sáb 4 Jul 2020 - 18:23


me puedes decir el nombre de la minstra de economia por favor?
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Mensaje por Dumbie el Sáb 4 Jul 2020 - 18:24

@Axlferrari escribió:
@salakov escribió:


Axl, esa es ministra de Economía de Venezuela lo mismo que tú.

¿Qué decía Debord de cotejar las fuentes y no dar cobertura a noticias falsas?
Si no es ella será otr@ subnormal por el mismo estilo. Tanto da.

deberias de poner un text de 80 paginas explicando lo que te ha pasado...
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Mensaje por Eric Sachs el Dom 5 Jul 2020 - 2:20

bueno.
que en venezuela no saben controlar la inflacion ( ni los de ahora ni los de antes) es un hecho.
lamentable pero es asi.

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Mensaje por BlueStarRider el Dom 5 Jul 2020 - 2:29

@Axlferrari escribió:
@salakov escribió:


Axl, esa es ministra de Economía de Venezuela lo mismo que tú.

¿Qué decía Debord de cotejar las fuentes y no dar cobertura a noticias falsas?
Si no es ella será otr@ subnormal por el mismo estilo. Tanto da.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Bol%C3%ADvar


Tú en cambio de subnormal no debes de tener ni un pelo Laughing Laughing
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Mensaje por BlueStarRider el Dom 5 Jul 2020 - 2:35

@mugu escribió:

Joder, qué marrón les han montado. Ahora van a tener que elegir entre el oro y Guaidó. Susto o muerte Laughing


EE.UU. ya se quedó con unas 1.500 toneladas de oro de los alemanes hace unos pocos años. Llevar las reservas de oro a otro páis más poderoso que el tuyo tiene esas cosas.
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Mensaje por salakov el Lun 6 Jul 2020 - 10:07

Axl, te tengo por un buen recomendador de libros, permite que hoy sea yo el que te recomiende un par.

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Mensaje por salakov Ayer a las 9:18

@BlueStarRider escribió:
@mugu escribió:

Joder, qué marrón les han montado. Ahora van a tener que elegir entre el oro y Guaidó. Susto o muerte Laughing


EE.UU. ya se quedó con unas 1.500 toneladas de oro de los alemanes hace unos pocos años. Llevar las reservas de oro a otro páis más poderoso que el tuyo tiene esas cosas.

Minuto 0:38

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Enrique Castells: "Maduro intentó llevarse a Rusia 25 millones"


https://www.elmundo.es/internacional/2020/07/07/5f04bd31fc6c83002a8b45bf.html

El presidente de la Corporación Venezolana de Guayana designado por Guaidó y su hombre fuerte en la entidad anuncia que reclamarán los fondos millonarios repartidos por el mundo


Enrique Castells (Alcántara, Filipinas, 1945), ingeniero de nacionalidad venezolana descendiente de abuelos catalanes y vascos, es el presidente designado hace 10 meses por Juan Guaidó para llevar las riendas de la entidad que gestiona los recursos minerales de Venezuela, entre ellos el oro y el aluminio, y libra en estos momentos desde Miami una batalla jurídica internacional para disponer de los fondos que la Corporación Venezolana de Guayana (CVG) tiene fuera del país, buena parte de los cuales se encuentran bloqueados en entidades financieras españolas.

Esta disputa ha experimentado un decisivo punto de inflexión hace sólo unos días, cuando la Justicia británica reconoció a Guaidó como legítimo presidente de Venezuela y le permitió disponer de las reservas de oro por valor de 900 millones de euros que custodia el Banco de Inglaterra. La reacción de Maduro no se ha hecho esperar y ha ordenado la detención y congelación de bienes de 11 funcionarios de Guaidó entre los que se encuentran los embajadores para EEUU y Reino Unido, a los que acusa de "falsos representantes" de Venezuela en el exterior.

Castells atiende en exclusiva a EL MUNDO tras el fallo judicial y avanza la estrategia a seguir a partir de ahora por el presidente de la Asamblea Nacional en relación con la que históricamente ha sido, junto a la petrolera estatal PDVSA, "la joya de la Corona" de la economía del país.

"Para que la gente entienda el potencial que tiene la CVG, que fue constituida en 1960 en la región de Guayana, que ocupa el 51% del territorio venezolano, en esa zona tenemos uno de los depósitos de oro más grandes del mundo, tan importante como los que existen en todo el continente africano".

"Pero es que, además, disponemos de 100 kilómetros de montañas de bauxita, mineral con el que se fabrica el aluminio, y unas reservas muy importantes de hierro".

"Para apreciar el potencial de esos recursos, hay que recordar que sólo la empresa del holding de la CVG que explotaba el aluminio llegó a obtener un beneficio de 600 millones de dólares en apenas 5 años, triplicando su capital social".

Por Guayana pasa, además, "el río Orinoco, el octavo más grande del mundo, que permitía exportar electricidad a Colombia y a Brasil". "Sin embargo, ahora mismo toda la producción de recursos naturales está prácticamente parada por el Gobierno de Nicolás Maduro".

"Cito otro ejemplo: ahora mismo Venezuela exporta un millón de toneladas de hierro por valor de 250 millones de dólares cuando el país llegó a producir 25 toneladas anuales. Guayana fue visitada por el Príncipe Carlos en 1976 y por el Papa porque era un gran emporio industrial, ahora solo hay chatarra".

Castells explica que como presidente de la CVG designado por Guaidó está "preparando" una hoja de ruta para el día después de la caída de Maduro, al que no vaticina "más de un año, porque el pueblo se está muriendo de hambre" y la situación es "insostenible".

Como primera medida, el hombre de Guaidó al frente de las reservas naturales del país pleitea, asesorado en Europa por el bufete español Cremades & Calvo Sotelo, para que el presidente de la Asamblea Nacional sea reconocido, al igual que ha ocurrido en Inglaterra, como el máximo representante político venezolano. Y de esta forma poder disponer de manera inmediata de los fondos de la CVG en el resto del mundo.

"Realmente no sabemos exactamente cuánto dinero y oro tiene la corporación fuera de Venezuela porque existen cuentas ocultas con más de 50 millones de euros, pero tenemos controlados 25 millones de euros en España; otros 5 millones más en la Isla de Antigua; y, lo más importante, el oro que se intervino en dos avionetas en EEUU, más de 800 kilos valorados en 4.000 millones de euros que ahora estamos reclamando porque, al igual que el oro de Inglaterra, nos corresponden".

"En cuanto se nos reconozca la legitimidad para disponer de esos fondos, los vamos a destinar a ayuda humanitaria", adelanta Castells. "La Banca Internacional dice que hay cuentas de venezolanos fuera del país por 350.000 millones de dólares. La supuesta deuda venezolana es de 100.000 millones. Han robado la mitad de los ingresos del país", asevera en referencia al régimen bolivariano.

"Maduro intentó el pasado mes de enero cerrar las cuentas bancarias de la CVG en España y llevarse los 25 millones de euros a Moscú. Me avisaron nuestros abogados y me cogí un vuelo a Madrid para evitarlo. Ahora mismo el dinero está bloqueado a pesar de que la ley española es bien clara, el poder lo tiene el administrador único de la sociedad y somos nosotros. Intentamos transferir ese dinero a EEUU y nos lo pararon. Solo un banco, Caixabank, aceptó mi nombramiento, pero el resto de bancos, no".

Por este motivo, tal y como reveló este periódico, Castells ha interpuesto recientemente una querella elaborada por el letrado Javier Cremades contra los hombres designados por Maduro en la CVG que intentaron, "con documentación falsa del Gobierno venezolano, llevarse el dinero a Rusia".

"España tiene intereses personales con el Gobierno de Maduro que no tienen nada que ver con lo legal; no se puede defender a un dictador criminal", razona Castells. "Nuestros abogados en EEUU nos dicen que a las autoridades americanas les sorprende la actitud de España en este tema".

"SOMOS MÁS POBRES QUE ÁFRICA"
"Si España piensa en Maduro es un pensamiento cortoplacista, la gente se está muriendo, no hay agua, no hay comida, no hay medicinas, el salario mensual es de tres dólares y el venezolano ha perdido una media de 14 kilos de masa corporal por el hambre. Somos más pobres que en África siendo uno de los países más ricos del mundo".

"Nuestra idea es utilizar la oficina en España para la compra de materia prima, equipos y repuestos para Corporación. Entre 3.000 y 5.000 millones pasarían por España porque queremos utilizarla como punta de lanza de la CVG en Europa", prosigue.

"No hay ningún país en el mundo que produzca aluminio más barato que Venezuela, España va a tener fábricas de piezas de aluminio para la industria y la idea es traer el mineral primario de Venezuela y convertirlo en producto terminado", agrega.

"Además, tenemos una planta de laminado en Costa Rica que se está utilizando ahora mismo como lavado de dólares, pero tiene un potencial increíble. Tenemos previsto un presupuesto de 100 millones de dólares para fabricar productos para la industria automovilística americana".

El plan diseñado por Castells establece que, "una vez tomada posesión de la CVG" por Guaidó, "tendrá que vender más de 10.000 millones de dólares al año".

"En un periodo de entre 3 y 5 años tendríamos que privatizar la industria y las empresas de la CVG. La equivalente en Brasil no tiene los recursos de la CVG, se privatizó en 1997 y está vendiendo hoy 35.000 millones de dólares al año. Las proyecciones que tenemos nosotros será que la CVG debería estar vendiendo 45.000 millones de dólares en 20 años si tomáramos el control ahora mismo. Si se hace lo que tenemos en mente, el primer año ya venderíamos 1.000 millones de dólares".

Para ello, sostiene el hombre de confianza de Guaidó, barajan realizar una inversión "para llegar a las capacidades" descritas de "20.000 millones de dólares". "En cinco años ya estaremos produciremos 10.000 millones".

En este sentido desvela que ya tienen "firmado un contrato con empresas privadas entre las que se encuentran compañías japonesas que han comprometido una inversión de 10.000 millones de dólares en cuanto Guaidó tome el control".

Castells subraya que "el coche eléctrico va a exigir 10 millones de toneladas de aluminio primario, lo que supone el 15% de la producción anual mundial". "Hay que tener en cuenta que el 90% de los coches serán eléctricos, habrá una reducción del petróleo de 20 millones de barriles diarios y eso para Venezuela se va a convertir en un problema gigantesco".

En cuanto a la otra "joya de la Corona" del país, la petrolera estatal PDVSA, "lo que ha ocurrido es criminal". "La PDVSA de Arabia Saudí, ARAMCO, vale un trillón de dólares y su producción es de 10 millones de barriles diarios. PDVSA era una de las empresas de petróleo más rentables del mundo que producía tres millones de barriles diarios, por lo que valía un tercio que la PDVSA saudí. El presidente Hugo Chávez en una de sus locuras destruyó todo. Esta gente lo que toca, lo destruye. Venezuela tiene una de las mayores refinerías de gasolina del mundo y ahora mismo no tenemos gasolina, la tenemos que traer de Irán. Lo que está ocurriendo es absolutamente increíble".

Eso sí, Castells lanza un mensaje de optimismo a sus compatriotas. "De nuestros 30 millones de habitantes, cinco millones votaron con sus pies y se fueron del país. Pero el personal cualificado que se fue, regresará a Venezuela. Tenemos gente en todas partes del mundo que volverá y Guayana será la Dubai industrial".
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Mensaje por salakov Hoy a las 8:35

Hablar de Venezuela y citar El Mundo es como el que tiene tos y se rasca los cojones (expresión baska).

Lee los libros —del verbo LEER— que te he puesto. Como poco creo que te harán dudar.
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Mensaje por Eric Sachs Hoy a las 8:37

@salakov escribió:Hablar de Venezuela y citar El Mundo es como el que tiene tos y se rasca los cojones (expresión baska).

Lee los libros —del verbo LEER— que te he puesto. Como poco creo que te harán dudar.

bueno algo del articulo es verdad.
a la gente  ( por ejemplo mi tia)  les estan pagando, al cambio  3 putos dolares al mes..

y si, han adelgazado.

Ya lo de inverntarse una potente industria de la nada es una boutade fina.

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